If 607 were true, I would've go back heart and soul.
John Aquila
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What triggered your doubts / awakening?
by Tornintwo ini am sort of new here, used a different username for a while but things got 'difficult' at home so i've since been lurking.... what i would be really interested to know, if you don't mind sharing, is what it was that triggered your doubts and initial research which led to awakening, was it a bad experience, injustice, changed doctrine?
for me, it was seeing mistreatment of young ones in the congregation, they're under so much pressure and as soon as they go even slightly astray they are shunned, either informally (as bad associations which pushes them further into the 'world') or formally - with elders dying to throw the book at them so they even lose their family.... ...then reading about child abuse issues in the press.... ...which led me to silentlambs.
...then jw facts, this forum and coc, wham!
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DO YOU EVER THINK ABOUT the things people believe about JESUS?
by Terry indo you ever "think about" the things you just take for granted about the story of jesus?.
there are things about christianity which should make honest thinkers scratch their head in wonder.. **.
when beloved (or hated) public figures are murdered (or executed), some rather large waves of reaction ensue.. there are two kinds of outcry both speculative and descriptive.
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The first person (chronologically) to commit ideas and contexts down in writing about Jesus Christ had never met him during
his lifetime or ministry! The man, in fact, had made a career out of stopping people from spreading stories about Jesus. This man was Saul of Tarsus. His only contact with Jesus, according to him, was a supernatural vision!
WTF, I never even thought of this Terry. You just blew my mind---AGAIN!
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Christianity: The most deceptive religion
by opusdei1972 injesus was a jew who apparently thought he was the messiah, however, after dying, his disciples began to propagate the lie that he would return from heaven during his generation.
but, his generation passed away, and it was clear that it was a false prophecy, then a dishonest christian wrote the second letter of peter so as to condemn those who realised that the prophecy was a fiasco.
interestingly, and sadly, this religion survived,....why????
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I am a Christian, a follower of Jesus Christ
Who got the story of Jesus Going???
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I think the WT believed their own "growth" statements - Financial Trouble Thoughts
by thedepressedsoul inwe've all read, heard and have seen in the videos where jw's and their leaders talk about the "huge" growth that is taking place.
they've talked about how many kh they needed, branches etc... .
our co last visit he mentioned how quickly the organization is speeding up and the huge growth they are seeing.
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John Aquila
Building is very common way for the wealthy to "park" their money. Its got decent return on investment and is reasonably secure. Its not totally liquid but its fairly well "hidden" in a way cash is not. They arnt srupid or fooled nor are they drinking koolaid. They are cunningly managing assets.
Totally agree Morpheus,
That's how the rich do it, Stock, treasury bills, and property.
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Jehovah's Witnesses---From Walking Tall To Living In Shame
by minimus ini remember the days when jws were proud of their religion, they walked tall and carried their big stick, their bibles, proudly.
now, it's embarrassing for a witness to admit their faith to others.
the average witness can't explain their beliefs, as they have changed so many times.
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From Walking Tall To living In Shame
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The JW religion has just cost me my marriage & my family life
by jambon1 inafter leaving the organisation 10 years ago i fought with everything i had to stay in my marriage and with my three children.
after a tumultuous number of years trying to maintain a happy family life while living in a divided home, it's finally over.
the religion is single handedly responsible for destroying my marriage and my family.
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Sorry to hear that. I know exactly what your going through and it's not easy. I also lost my wife, we were headed towards 30 years of marriage. And it was a great marriage, until I started waking up and voicing my concerns. She also is a kind, caring woman but is deadly afraid losing her everlasting life in paradise earth. There was nothing I could do. Me against everlasting life in paradise earth. - I couldn't compete.
Welcome to the forum.
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Updated Chronological Timeline of the Great Tribulation -- after the New Light from July Watchtower
by FusionTheism inthe july 15, 2015 study watchtower article entitled "your deliverance is getting near", along with the jw broadcasting video entitled "gerrit losch: fortified by "the prophetic word," and chapter 21 of the god's kingdom rules!
book presented a large amount of new light or clarified understanding of the events of the great tribulation.. here i am presenting it in chronological order -- this is the governing body's updated chronological order of events for the time right before the great tribulation through armageddon:.
the final sealing of the anointed occurs just prior to the outbreak of the tribulation.
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The Cry of "Peace and Security!" happens.
Someone needs to inform ISIS!
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"So you are an atheist. So would you kill me if it were to your advantage?"
by OnTheWayOut ini worked a different shift.
i knew the people i worked with, but not as well as i could have.. anyway, religion comes up.
one guy mentions in front of another that i wrote a book about my religious experience.
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Ignorance: How can you say that? The Bible has been proven to be right?
OTWO: What part is proven?
Ignorance: I don't know. But it hasThis world is in freaking trouble.
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A Burger and a Hook-up
by John Aquila inso i went to get a burger just now, and a couple of elders from my former congregation caught me off guard.
they started giving me the we feel so sorry for you, you must be so lonely bit.
i kept telling them im doing great and im not lonely but its like they couldnt hear me talking.
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I'd be willing to bet you could go all the way with at least one of them. But be prepared for a judicial committee because most likely their cult training would kick in after the fact and they'd confess to the elders.
You just threw a wrench in the works. Your right, all I would be doing is asking for trouble. So I think I’m going to scrap the whole thing.
Being married to a person you did not choose could be as bad as being in a religion that you choose because of the hidden baggage you were never told. parable misapplied: " the field is the world"
I think your idea is better, " the field is the world"
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A Burger and a Hook-up
by John Aquila inso i went to get a burger just now, and a couple of elders from my former congregation caught me off guard.
they started giving me the we feel so sorry for you, you must be so lonely bit.
i kept telling them im doing great and im not lonely but its like they couldnt hear me talking.
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Wasn't there a talk of something recently where one of the GB said that there was something wrong with a brother who wasn't a Ministerial Servant by the time he was 23 and that a sister would be foolish to get involved with him?
You know Pete Zahut, I'm going to call them on that. I am going to bring up the direction given by the GB to all sisters to be interested only in someone that is ministerial servant. But before I do, I'm going to play them to see how far they are willing to go. Consider it a social experiment.
